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Fair enough. I'm just a concerned friend who doesn't want to screw things up for them even more.
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[nah dude, thats cool of you]
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Then, I would certainly not advise trying to treat him yourself to any extent. I'm sure he appreciates your concern and help - so certainly don't discount your own aid.
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[yeah, like it's cool he has a friend that cares so much, that will be a lot of help on its own, but he sounds like he needs some mental help]
3:31 AM
...ah, related - I would doubt a supernatural claim on principle unless some actual supernatural aspect is demonstrated.
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Alright, thanks for clearing that up
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[but yeah dude, fuck yeah. Know you are awesome for being such a cool friend alright and I hope your friend gets better]
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Yes. (edited)
3:32 AM
Early and quick addressing of the issue is good.
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Thank you guys, it did start a couple days ago, so at least that's not too awful damning. I'll be sure to take those steps to getting them the help they need.
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Excellent.
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@Barrien could be a demon, I've thrown one of those out and it fits your description
3:50 AM
I know winter and the staff don't believe in demons but I do
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I think if you are going to talk about this, it fits in #metaphysics channel.
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Magic and demons do in fact belong in the #metaphysics channel, unless you have a suggestion for how to actually test their existence.
4:04 AM
Naturally, that would also require an operational definition of what is being tested, hah.
4:05 AM
But if you want to do so, I would welcome it in the #tulpa-research channel.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:13 AM
Hello. Is it okay to discuss about soulbonding here?
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I do not see why not.
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soulbonds are fairly similar to tulpas
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Mm. From my understanding they are the same except soulbonds are based on a character, yeah?
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:14 AM
Correct
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Then, yes. That is basically a tulpa here, hah. Just one with rather... Specific personality forcing and, as far as I am aware, forced restrictions on their behavior and developmental changes?
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:16 AM
I'm pretty new to soulbonding but became interested in it when someone in a group mentioned and has a relationship with a character they bonded with.
4:17 AM
I guess so..
4:17 AM
When I heard about tulpas, I wasn't sure if I wanted to make one because I didn't feel I had the power to create a real live being in my mind.
4:18 AM
But when I discovered that people have been having relationships with their favorite characters and found out what it was basically, I needed to find out more about.
4:19 AM
Someone told me I would still need to go through a process as if I'm making a tulpa with a soulbond I believe.
4:19 AM
But I'm confused on how to do that.
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[oh yeah. its like the same thing, but dude, I wouldnt be surprised when they like change and shit and dont act like the character anymore]
4:19 AM
[here read this]
4:20 AM
[come back with questions]
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:20 AM
Ok. Thanks. I read some of this before but I'll continue.
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[okay well this one is the best imo]
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:20 AM
Change?
4:20 AM
Hm. I just thought characters were really real in their own universe.
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[yeah like how a normal person will change over a year time]
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:20 AM
Oh ok.
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I would not recommend making a tulpa based on a character, Incidentally.
4:21 AM
Tulpas develop based on experience and are... For all practical intents and purposes, just as much of a person as you.
4:21 AM
Essentially telling them they have to be a character made up by another person seems rather odd to do.
4:22 AM
It can work, but... I certainly would not be happy to be told to be like somebody else.
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[yeah honestly Ive seen tulpas based on characters and you would have no idea while talking to her cause she acts so different]
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:22 AM
Hmm... Ok.. Perhaps this wasn't a good idea.
4:23 AM
So, a soulbond is a tulpa?
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Indeed. Essentially, if you want to have a "relationship" with the character itself, you may be better served simply using your imagination in general.
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[yeah I agree] (edited)
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I don't know all of the implication of a soulbond, but as far as I am aware it is meant to be like a tulpa except forced to identify as the character and act as the person interprets the character. S
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[prob just better to idfk, not. cause it'll change probably. I wouldnt]
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:24 AM
Dang it. ><
4:24 AM
Ok. Thanks for the information.
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Sometimes with variation, sometimes not. Though... Without variation, I would surmise that perhaps it is more of an exercise in creative writing.
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there are many tulpas based on fictional characters, known as fictives, but they don't try to "become" the character, and instead they develop their own personality not particularly related to the character
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[yeah its all good. ]
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That said - multiplicity is safe to do as long as you make sure that you are ready for the responsibility of effectively "raising" the tulpa.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:25 AM
So, basically, tulpas are like babies?
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bduddy #Diana# 5/26/2018 4:26 AM
@Deleted User most "soulbonders" have beliefs more similar to yours, that characters are "actually" real in their own universes, and they are bonding with those characters. You won't find any information about that, specifically, here.
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There is intimacy there - it just may not be with the character you are infatuated with.
4:26 AM
...it isn't a perfect comparison, but there are some similarities.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:26 AM
Oh I see.. Ok.
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Tulpas do have access to your memories, procedural and semantic - though they typically have a different "viewpoint" of sorts with your chronological/experiential memory.
4:28 AM
So, the goal is to develop them by giving them experience and going from there, rather than starting from a fixed point and going along a linear path.
4:28 AM
Soulbonds are not the same in this as far as I am aware - you would have to look up a soulbond community for more detailed information (as mentioned before).
4:29 AM
At the very least, do apply critical thought to what you are told to decide what you think. It's always safer to do that to avoid getting information that can negatively impact the way you think.
4:29 AM
Mental health comes first.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:31 AM
Ok.
4:31 AM
I do have a mental health condition and I try not to fall into something I don't want to be apart of.
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Hah. You have your whole life to make the decision, but it should be viewed as a permanent decision if you choose to make one - a tulpa, at least. I would say so for a soulbond as well, for the sake of security.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:34 AM
Ok.
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In either case. Feel free to stay if you wish - you are welcome to.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 4:35 AM
All right. Thank you.
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There's a post over in the subreddit that talks about how a person's conversation with their tulpa tends to run in a patterms of "talk response talk response". I figured I'd bring the question up here at all and ask if any of you have noticable patterns that pop up when you communicate with your tulpa?
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in the early days, it was a bit like that for us. I would have to say something and listen carefully for the response. now they just butt in whenever they like :)
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Hypothetically, would it be considered cheating if Tae ends up being better at games than me, so we pull a yugioh and switch so she can beat people at games instead of me?
1:59 PM
Just wondering
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If you tell your lgs owner that you went full Yami on the competition, I doubt they'll disqualify you.
2:01 PM
They'll probably give you a funny look.
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That would be hilarious, but i mean any game video game, board game, etc.
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Nah, man, tulpas are basically just you but remixed.
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And i mean morally cheating if that makes sense
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 2:04 PM
And how a tulpa is supposed to be better than you playing games?
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I don't think it's morally cheating, so long as you don't place the skill on yourself
2:05 PM
the only exception would be if you don't want to say to others that you have a tulpa (edited)
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Yes, that would be the case @Reguile
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, You are your tulpa are very well linked together, I'd say that if one of you has a skill then the other is fine to claim it as their own.
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 2:07 PM
Unless you go full DID. But most of tulpamancers don't. Even if they can experience switching.
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I would have no problem letting people know, but I'm pretty sure we would be ostracized for life
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yeah, it's a risk I wouldn't take
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And that's no fun for ad hygiene
2:08 PM
Lol wut? I meant to say "anyone"
2:08 PM
Gotta love autocorrect
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autocorrect just had a frudian slip
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You're right, Reguile, I just can't get enough of that ad hygiene
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what exactly is DID
2:26 PM
I keep seeing it pop up here and there
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Deleted User 5/26/2018 2:27 PM
Dissociative identity disorder
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not having Allun around for the first time in almost 2 months feels really weird
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Dissociative Identity Disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 5th Edition (DSM-5)
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